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  • Mystery Number 258 – supplied by Peter Skellon

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    The photo shows a steam crane at Crewe Works taken some time between 1923 and 1939. The crane driver, 2nd from the left of those standing on the crane, is Henry Potts - re-started with the LNWR at Crewe in this role in 1901 (he’d been an apprentice fitter in 1884) and retired about 1938/39. The query is - does anyone know more about the crane and its use, and why there appears to be office staff amongst the group?

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  • Tom Robertson — 10-Feb-2020 12.01 PM
    The jib looks rather lightweight for a breakdown crane. Could it be for use by another department, maybe Permanent Way, or Signalling & Telegraph? I believe signalling equipment was manufactured at Crewe.
    William Ball — 19-Feb-2020 10.18 PM
    If it's a prototype of a new model of crane, the group could be made of the those who designed it, built it and would man it. I just wonder why it is lettered LMSR, rather than simply LMS.
    Steve Richardson — 11-Sep-2020 12.00 AM
    Hi Looking at my bible (Peter Tatlow Railway Cranes vol 3) it could be one of two types. Possibly a Taylor & Hubbard 7 or 10 ton diesel-mechanical crane. Two were delivered in 1938 – 10 ton (RD 1400/10 ) with lattice jib and 7 ton (RD 1401/7) with T & H channel- section jib. Both went to Newton Heath initially. Alternatively, if the crane is definitely steam powered then it is probably one of the 9 Taylor and Hubbard 7 ton steam cranes delivered to LMS between 1932 and 1938. These were used for Permanent Way work and had a channel- section jib on some. Hope this helps Kind regards Steve
    Harry Jack — 15-Jan-2021 12.00 AM
    I can't say anything about the crane, but the appearance of the men suggests the 1920s rather than the 1930s, and that letter 'S' in 'LMSR' is non-standard, which suggests a date not long after the 1923 grouping.
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