Mystery Number 123
– supplied by HMRS Collection
This is a photograph from the HMRS collection which is baffling their experts. Its reference is AAM435. An unknown location - but from the Foulkes Roberts collection. These photos were taken round Denbigh in 1923-61. So maybe North Wales?
|John Stockton-Wood — 17-Dec-2011 9.45 AM|
|The locomotive and carriages are approaching Denbigh with a train of 6-wheeled carriages from Ruthin. I would suggest it must have been taken around 1921 by Foulkes Roberts.|
|Peter Whitby — 18-Dec-2011 9.31 AM|
|Following on from John Stockton-Wood's comments regarding "approaching Denbigh" I attach a section of map which seems to match the photograph. If I am correct then the photographer would have been standing opposite the present day caravan site.|
|Huw Edwards — 21-Dec-2011 12.19 PM|
|As indicated this photograph was taken near Denbigh. Having checked the relevant 2 chain plan, I believe that the photograph of a train from Ruthin to Denbigh was taken looking south east towards Ruthin near the half mile post from zero at Denbigh station. The bridge shown in the background is no. 6. Wynne Park Cottages can be seen to the left of the bridge. There was formerly an occupation bridge (no. 5) between the photographer and the bridge which had been demolished by the time the photograph was taken.|
|Harry Jack — 24-Dec-2011 4.19 PM|
I'm sure Huw Edwards is correct. The photographer seems to have been standing in the cemetery shown at the left edge of the map provided by Peter Whitby in his note 2 above.
For comparison there is a photograph taken later in the day, showing a bunker-first 2-4-2T on a similar train, in W.G. Rear's Corwen to Rhyl (Foxline, 1993), p66 upper. This one seems to have been taken from the next bridge to the west (No 4?) which carried Ystrad Road over the line, but the backgrounds look identical.
As John Stockton-Wood suggests, the photographer was probably Foulkes-Roberts, but which one? There were at least two railway enthusiasts of that name - D.S. Foulkes-Roberts and, probably earlier, A.D. Foulkes-Roberts. One or the other, or both, took some fine shots of trains in the Denbigh area.
|Huw Edwards — 09-Jan-2012 2.01 PM|
Further to my previous post, may I make the following additional comments?
|Mike Williams — 21-Jan-2012 9.19 PM|
|Could somebody confirm the exact make-up of this train please?|
|Philip A. Millard — 27-Jan-2012 7.33 PM|
To answer Mike Williamsí query:
30ft 1in Brake-Third D.359
Undoubtedly a Chester District Set with an additional third D.297 compared with the 1906 schedule.
|Mike Williams — 01-Feb-2012 8.48 AM|
|Thank you Philip - just what I hoped. Would make an excellent model.|
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