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Another one from Ted, this time of 'Big Jumbo' no. 271 Minotaur with an inspection saloon. Ted asks. "Where is it?"

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  Believed not to be Carlisle. Click on the photo for a larger image
Philip Millard — 28-Jun-2008 4.17 PM

The signal box suggests that the location is on the Shrewsbury and Hereford Joint Line.

The saloon is one of those to D.7 converted from a 42ft 0in Sleeping Saloon and which survived to BR days.

The date is 1913 or later.

Ted Talbot — 08-Jul-2008 10.57 PM
I have found another print of this, on the back of which is written: "Garden Inspection train." But it does not give date or location.
Jack Walne — 31-Jul-2008 8.07 PM
This station does have a "Shrewsbury and Hereford" look. Could it be Condover, which was in a cutting and the bridge seems to be in the right place? But I suspect that the cutting is too deep for Condover.
Philip Millard — 02-Aug-2008 12.06 PM
Yes, I considered Condover, but the signal cabin is on the wrong side of the line.
Harry Jack — 05-Aug-2008 7.01 PM

This is Moore station, on the main Grand Junction line, looking north-east to Warrington, three miles away.

In the distance, 250 yards beyond the station, the two spans of Moss Lane overbridge can be seen; the arch on the right was the original bridge over the 1837 GJ line, the (plate girder?) bridge on the left was built over the 1893 deviation which climbed at 1 in 135 to the high Acton Grange viaduct over the Manchester Ship Canal.

After the deviation line was opened the old line was used as sidings for a few years, but by the date of the photograph the sidings had gone and the main Up line passed under the GJ arch while the Down line went under the newer bridge.

The signal cabin appears to be of Saxby & Farmer's 'northern' type.

For such a tiny village, Moore was well-served by the railway. Just 300 yards away to the right was Daresbury station on the LNW & GW Joint - the old Birkenhead Railway. Moore station closed in 1943, Daresbury in 1952.

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